Thursday, April 17, 2025

The Collapse CLXXXVIII: Walking And Talking

 31 October 20XX+1

My Dear Lucilius

My sincerest of apologies for what became a six day delay in responding. I have been far more busy and distracted than I had anticipated. This should not have curtailed my conversation with you, but it has. I am thankful that Pompeia Paulina reached out to you (figuratively of course; I have no idea that you will ever see the correspondences) – although as before, I resolutely refuse to read what she wrote. Conversations have a right to be private between parties.

What have I been up to? Walking and talking, dear Lucilius, walking and talking.

Birch, as you might recall from your visit here, lies almost the end of the Gemstone Valley, a small valley with a Northwest/Southeast axis wedged between Gemstone Mountain and Sandstone Mountain, perhaps 25 miles deep and 3 miles wide. The state highway that leads from Highwayville heads Southeast enters Birch at about 20 miles, where it takes a hard East turn towards Kentucky City. “Behind” Birch is the remaining five miles and a county road, which leads up to a pass with a reservoir (Yes, I know. A dam with a flood plain. Not much I can do about that.)

The point of recounting this geography with you is help you understand what has been in my mind for the past week. One of course, is simply supplies. The second is defensible space and the most likely areas of potential attack.

To answer both of these questions, I needed to do a lot of walking and talking.

I have, by my estimate, visited every house that more or less “falls” within the greater Birch Area. There are, more or less, 50 such dwellings, of which perhaps 35 remain inhabited with others being vacation homes or homes of those that have moved away.

I stopped at every house.

Of those houses, around twnenty-five are what I would call “well disposed” to the idea of having something a bit more firm that what we have now. Those people come in a variety of ages, conditions, and units, from the Alcmaeonid clan with 9 members (parents, six children of various ages, and a mother-in-law) to the Widow Sappho, a 90+ year old veteran of life here with a mind as sharp as a tack. Between these two extremes are singles, couples, small families, retired folk.

The other ten houses...perhaps simplest to say that my decision in the trial was not well received by Terentia and her family and friends and they had no problem informing me of the fact. There were no weapons drawn specifically, but they were clearly in evidence. Pompeia Paulina sent Young Xerxes along with me to shepherd me through this sort of thing.

I detest animosity, Lucilius. But I can at least say that I did all I could to reach out.

One of the points of discussion was simply to find out if – and that was big if – people were interested in this proposed grand experiment (which, for the record, other than the rather unfortunate encounters above, everyone was). The second was to assess how folks were “set up”, as the saying goes.

Interesting facts about performing such an exercise:

1) Perhaps to no-one’s surprise, people here that live hear year round are generally better prepared than what I suspect most are, the climate and conditions being what they are.

2) People are generally quite happy to discuss their armaments.

3) Food was an unspoken issue (except for the Widow Sappho of course, who assured me she had “enough in her root cellar to outlast this Great Depression just like her parents did the last one”).

The last point reflects how much uncertainty and fear there is. People are genuinely concerned about what comes next.

Which leads me to my description of our area above: geography. Or perhaps more precisely, geography, likely threats, and defenses.

The reality is – given what I have just described above – any threats are likely to come one of four ways. The first one – from the Northwest of Highwayville -is the most likely, but also the one we would know of the earliest. And coming from the road the other way – from Kentuckyville – while much closer, would likely also be with sufficient warning. To our Southwest, Gemstone peak is likely high enough to prevent all but the most determined and energetic from making an attack (and I suspect we have few modern Hannibal’s in our modern world).

Which leaves the road to the reservoir behind us and the much lower range to our north, over which lies the wilds between Little City and McAdams – concerning in that someone could come over them largely without encountering anyone else except us.

This letter has gone on too long already, Lucilius, so I will leave you with this question for the next one, a question that has been on my mind ever since I started these walks: How do we make a defensible space when the very nature of where we are is not defensible?

Sometimes life comes down to playing the hand we are dealt.


Your Obedient Servant, Seneca

15 comments:

  1. Nylon126:34 AM

    To answer that question, Seneca, Young Xerxes, Pompeia Paulina need to brainstorm together, come up with possible solutions and make the rounds again with them to the various families to hear what they have to contribute as well. The sooner the better, just because no locusts have arrived yet doesn't mean they won't.

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    1. Nylon12, that problem is foremost on Seneca's mind (for one reason or another, I have certain insights into his psyche). I can assure that problem troubles him a great deal, perhaps more than food at the moment.

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  2. Since Seneca is prone to look at things in the Greek manner, yourself fond of the Japanese manner (more alike than different BTW) and your people of Birch look at things in the "American" you can't tell me what to do manner.

    Owww. First defense, the farming villages of Japan and Greece were bred from eons of warfare running through their area. American "villages" were never so subject to a real threat of war running through the village aside from the Indian wars and the not so civil war.

    Greek and Japanese villages had their home clustered around the town commons and the farming fields surrounded them. Walking DISTANCE. This made common defense easier.

    Birch not so much as each family is often scattered across the roadways and assumed automobile traffics. In post gasoline era the now foot borne "calvary" is going to be way too slow in responding to that attacked home IF they even hear of it before someone sees the smoke of the burning home.

    Both Japanese and Greek villages have a common history of helping neighbors as cooperation keeps them safe.

    American are the "Rugged Individualists" (Just give me my social safety net) that are not so likely to assist each other often and willingly with troubles like show shoveling and tending each other's critters when sickness runs in the household.

    There are exceptions, most like I suspect Widow Sapporo that have a lot of "Old Country" attitude in their family.

    Internal issues are the REAL ISSUES in my humble opinion. Food, safe water and sanitation are life critical issues. Cooperation within the extended family of the Widow Sappo is likely to make that household in decent shape. Widow is likely to understand the cooperation situation IF treated with respect.

    Others that wanted to display weapons in dislike are a real problem. Not likely to support others and expect support from others as they are the "harmed ones" from the "trial". Hunger, wrath and weapons are a toxic blend.

    It's your storyline so my suggestions on how I'd attempt this is not given.

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    1. Michael - I do not know that Seneca is up to the task of essentially redesigning a town, nor that the impacted population is up to doing it. It would either have to be the outcome of a longer period or a severe event. That said, there are possibly things that can be done to move things more in that direction.

      Japanese towns were in fact clustered. They also generally had no usable defenses (and were liable to destruction if they did). At best, they could simply flee and hope for the best. Somewhat sadly, The Seven Samurai was a great movie but in that sense pretty atypical, if not fantastic.

      The Greeks did indeed have the same setup, although defenses - walls - were more common. That is not a possibility here either, given the size and simple fact that anything other than the most basic of a barrier, maybe person high at best, is possible.

      Seneca has a great deal to think on.

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  3. SNOW Shoveling not show shoveling. A real New England issue even with paid private snowplows and such. Much manual labor that elderly and sickly cannot do well or safely.

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    1. Oh, Michael, the number of times I have "mis-entered" a thing are endless.

      But yes - show shoveling and other manual tasks benefit greatly from stronger and younger backs.

      (Probably show shoveling as well - whole seasons can be pretty heavy...)

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  4. Cue the theme music to the A-Team!

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    1. Ed, this made me laugh out loud. Thank you.

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  5. I immediately thought back to the English during the Viking invasions. An alarm was sent out and everyone hustled to a defendable fortified area (taking with them, of course, everything of value including all foodstuffs).

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    1. Leigh, I know you live in the woods a fair bit. A lot like about a 3rd of Birch's folks live given how far out Seneca's cabin has been described.

      How willing would you be to grab your valuables and hoof it (no gasoline remember) to a planned "safe space" on receipt of an alarm? A decent amount of food is quite a loadout, let alone ALL your food supplies for the next year.

      BTW how do you think an alarm would be done? No phones, no radio, no vehicles. Paul Revere style perhaps? Might be horses there, never mentioned as of yet.

      English villages were built in a walking distance of the commons and the fields they farmed were around the village.

      Might enjoy this bit of historical fiction about Viking raiding:

      https://oldafsarge.blogspot.com/2025/04/dakota-viking-sends-death-on-shore.html

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    2. Leigh, one of the original weaknesses of Viking invasion that Alfred the Great eventually saw off was the fact that there was no centralized location to retreat to; thus the creation of the burg system, basically small fortified forts to which people could retreat and from which small garrisons could sally forth.

      Other cultures - the Irish, for example, dealt with the problem by simply building stone towers with elevated entrances. The early Viking raids were more plundering expeditions than the later settlement raids, so it worked okay.

      In terms of retreating to such a place, it depends on the amount of warning that is available. And the nature of the things to be carried.

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    3. Michael - One point is that in such an event, "valuables" get reduced to the minimum. Or, people simply place them in places outside of the settlement and retrieve them from there.

      Given the circumstances, there are probably a lot of "things" that have little value but looters might interest themselves and load themselves down with.

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    4. Given the circumstances, there are probably a lot of "things" that have little value but looters might interest themselves and load themselves down with.

      I posted the Viking raid link to show how valuable metals and Food was. Other writings there show how lootable was a bit of silver but food and metal were important.

      Why metal? Hard to make. Like in your environment of the Collapse. Steel can be reforged a bit into useful items.

      As to valuables reduced to the minimum, tell that to someone who's facing a very long winter with burned crops and home.

      Was true in Viking age as well as my experiences in Bosnian "Civil War". Those "UN Mercy Food drops" were few and often politically driven.

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    5. By valuables to a minimum, I meant to suggest food as one of those valuables. Even in the story you reference, the food - on the hoof, in that case - was driven to higher ground.

      Metal is indeed valuable - if you can rework or reforge it. Certainly not as common a skill as it once was.

      Having read a bit on the Collapse of Yugoslavia, it seemed like a nightmarish scenario.

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    6. Having read a bit on the Collapse of Yugoslavia, it seemed like a nightmarish scenario.

      Even with the benefit of living inside Camp Bondsteel running ambulances into that chaos was heartrending.

      Civil wars aren't. Families against family members, honor killings and worse.

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