Friday, October 03, 2025

Man Out Of Time

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One of the standing comments that The Ravishing Mrs. TB has about me is that I was born about 200 years too late.  I would have been far happier, she maintains, had I been a 19th Century English Squire, comfortably wealthy enough to not have to work and engage in the serious acts of reading, writing, thinking, and developing small mad hobbies like keeping sheep or growing different varieties of grain.

It is a fair assessment and one that I own up to - after all, that grain is not going to grow itself.  But beyond the gentle poking at my rather esoteric and perhaps not quite modern world useful interests lies an actual truth:  in a meaningful way, I do not belong to this time.

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If arguably the 20th Century represented a time of transition (which, it could be argued, the 19th Century did as well:  One could have been born in 1700 and died in 1800 and the world would have been very similar while a person born in 1800 and living to 1900 saw a completely different one).  When I grew up, my grandparents' generation was alive with memories back to a rural or agriculture past which for them was not a hobby but a way of life. Even in my parent's generation this was true:  my father and his family picked fruit in orchard or worked in fruit packing sheds and my mother's family still visited ancestral lands where mining had taken place within their lifetime.  I was on the tail end of this, my childhood a mix of the "new" world of technology and convenience and reminders in the form of living people and objects of a time before such technology.

Perhaps as a result, I grew up looking like the Doubleheaded eagle that graced the flags of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, The Russian Empire, and the Byzantine Empire (and now the Orthodox Church).  They looked both East and West; I looked both to the past and future. 

But one cannot look both ways forever; it is a terrible way to make any sort of forward progress.

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The more things push forward, the more important it seems to me to keep the elements of what was left behind - The "Old Ways", as the picture above suggests.

There is value in being able to do something yourself:  sew a shirt, grow a garden, plane wood to make cabinets, make cheese, raise livestock.  And there is value in doing things in analog form:  reading books, writing letters, keeping time on non-digital timepieces, playing music.  

The value is not just in the output - honestly, one almost never "makes" any money doing it.  The value is in the skills that are gained and the knowledge that is passed on.

I can use The Tube of You to find out how to do almost anything. What I cannot do is to have the skill that those folks have to do them. Often theirs is earned by years or decades of practice; it cannot be earned by a 20 minute video and three trips to the store for supplies.

The "Old Ways" are also power - the power of independence, the power to think by one's self and act by one's self to complete actions.  One can be interdependent in the exercise of such things, but one is never truly dependent - reliant 100% on the skill and value of another to complete needful or even pleasurable things fueled by our ability to pay for them.

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The older I get, the more and more these Old Ways matter to me.

I read physical books instead of electronic ones. I make certain foods for myself instead of purchasing them.  I try (not always successfully) to divorce myself from the technology of the age as much as possible, especially given that I spend so much time on it for my work.

Am I wiser or smarter or somehow better off for having done such things?  Not that I can tell - but I have passed aspects of this onto my own children, who each in their own way follow The Old Ways. 
 
And perhaps that, in the end, is the ultimate value of them:  Not that we practice them, but that we pass them on.

15 comments:

  1. I don't suppose it will surprise you for me to say I can relate.

    I've been thinking that my chosen lifestyle is not just to preserve knowledge and skills, but to preserve a worldview. One that has a perspective grounded in the naturally created world. Those who embrace and chase a technologically sophisticated lifestyle, root their perspective in a completely man-made world where nature is being replaced. First man and now AI can solve all problems and make the world "better." Except, now, it's almost as though we now live on two different planes with two different realities. To borrow an idea from string theory, we now seem to live in the 5th dimension.

    Maybe by preserving our historic traditions, some will be able to find their way back when they stray too far into their ever-changing artificial reality.

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    1. There's something psychologically "right" about waking up to roosters crowing, feeding the chickens, checking for eggs, and harvesting what you're growing. You almost don't need a clock or a weather forecast. You fall in step with nature and can detect changes in its rhythm. It's how we were meant to live...

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    2. Peteforester, I so agree with you. My husband and I didn't choose our lifestyle to prepare for the worst, or protest industrialism, or make a statement. We chose to live this way because we sincerely believe that this is how humans are meant to live.

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    3. Leigh, I think the idea of actively choosing a worldview is something that we have not done in ways that might have in the past. So much of the world now just "accepts" things as quickly as they come out rather than following what you and Dan did or what groups like the Mennonites or Amish do: evaluating the technology against the world view.

      We are more and more coming to live in two separate worlds. I suspect that bifurcation will continue to occur until the two groups can talk to each other less than we currently are able to.

      To Pete and to your point, every other living thing has a cycle and rhythm to their lives. It would be surprising if we, too, did not.

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    4. AI is, to me, terrifying - not for what it can do, but what it will make us: a people who can only ask questions to get answers that make sense, but not necessarily the correct answers. I am certainly not qualified to speak on it as an expert, but the ramifications long term should frighten more people than it does.

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  2. Not all progress is good. People without roots are easily misled.

    Too many people think meat comes from Styrofoam and plastic wrap.

    Giving up your autonomy for microwave pizza isn't progress. It's slow motion slavery to those that control the food and grid.


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    1. Michael, we have confused progress for advancement. The two are not the same.

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  3. Nylon127:49 AM

    Leigh makes a very good point, the naturally created world and the man-made world. So many people live completely in the man-made world and Nature is only an occasional violent interruption, all they see is steel, glass, concrete ,asphalt and brick, to see a horizon comprised of just trees, grasslands, hills, and mountains means leaving the urban concentrations. Your children are lucky that you've done what you've done TB.

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    1. Nylon12, having just returned from six days in Nature, including at least two days when we saw no-one other than our party to within twenty four hours to the urban city (one might argue a hive of scum and villainy), your words have even more impact.

      If anything, such adventures push me to rely even less on the modern world.

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  4. I used to think I was born a few hundred years too late but I think I felt that way mostly because I would have loved to see this continent before it was spoiled by us European immigrants. I'm pretty sure I would miss out on some of the modern conveniences I enjoy such as this computer that I'm typing this response on and the plentiful and cheap supply of physical books I have access too. I just bought a large box of hardcover books for about $12 at the recent charity event I worked at!

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    1. Ed, you are correct that I, too, try to split the difference. The very fact I typed this on a device that spits electrons throughout the world is evidence of that. And yet I also look at how I am and what I do and realize how far misaligned with the current Zeitgeist I am.

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  5. Anonymous3:16 PM

    I think there a lot of us with one metaphorical foot in different generations. Aunt and Uncle who raised me were born in 1892 and 1894. He was raised on a Kansas farm. Mother ran away with a drummer a year after birth. Aunt's mother died shortly after her birth and her father dumped her on Grandmother who had immigrated from Germany when she was 4. I'm born during the war when we lived on rationing. Now I'm in another century. But I know what Aunt and Uncle did and lived in that time but Aunt also told me of grandmother's time in the 1860's when civil war was raging. So I'm filled with bits and pieces of the last 150 years. But aunt liked the stove and fridge she didn't have to fill with ice or carry wood. Along with a washing machine instead of a corrugated metal washer. We had that hanging on the basement wall till she died.

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    1. Anon - Through the memories of my Material Grandmother and her sisters, I had knowledge of one area of the country going back to effectively its settlement by Europeans, so a similar time range.

      I have tried to make sure we keep a few things as well - and that I tell my children what they are and why we have them.

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  6. I often feel I was born out of sync with history, but it is what it is. We can't chose our places in history, TB, only what we do with them.

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    1. It is true, Pete. As Tolkien said, none wish to live in evil times, but we must do the best with the times we are in.

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