tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post8483552881237912857..comments2024-03-28T16:44:45.252-07:00Comments on The Forty-Five: The One-Straw RevolutionToirdhealbheach Beucailhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-91581661410960852392022-12-18T14:36:52.245-08:002022-12-18T14:36:52.245-08:00Leigh:
1) (Quickly goes out and does research) M...Leigh:<br /><br />1) (Quickly goes out and does research) More authors to read and books added to the cart. My dance card is filling up quickly...<br /><br />2) I am not surprised that their voices are ignored - after all, the only answer is the one we currently use. Much like many other things in our current society, answers which are not "approved" are not correct.<br /><br />3) The information is out there. Would that more people availed themselves of it.Toirdhealbheach Beucailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-68393541200757432832022-12-18T13:36:03.238-08:002022-12-18T13:36:03.238-08:00In terms of paradigm, the other people we need to ...In terms of paradigm, the other people we need to be listening to are Bill Mollison and Geoff Lawton. Gabe Brown is another one, who has scientifically documented that his use of cover crops, with no fertilizers, and no 'cides builds soil and sequesters carbon. Some of these people have testified before congressional committees, but their voices and solutions remain ignored. Leighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02435811789823712254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-86450072051019921422022-12-18T06:29:12.741-08:002022-12-18T06:29:12.741-08:00Leigh, I saw an interesting article a couple of we...Leigh, I saw an interesting article a couple of weeks ago about soil loss in the Midwest. The proposed solution, due to the measured loss, was (as you might imagine based on current trends) "No Till Farming" - but the sort that Logsdon always rightly demeaned: covering the soil with plastics and using herbicides (the industrial solution), not the vision of Fukuoka - because unless you use modern needs for agriculture, it is just "going to fail".<br /><br />"Farming is for stupid people and dopes" - It is an odd dichotomy when we seem to live in a society that (at least from what I can see) values the output of farmers' markets and (in theory) the people that produce such things while at the same time the "Farming is for people that cannot do anything more worthy" motif exists in our society. I cannot fully understand why this is.<br /><br />They do indeed have the wrong paradigm, and Fukuoka demonstrated with his work that his methodology could be successful. Unfortunately like many things, we fight a system of vested interests. <br /><br />Toirdhealbheach Beucailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-6011097467438674892022-12-18T03:15:41.479-08:002022-12-18T03:15:41.479-08:00Honestly? I think the whole "organic farming ...Honestly? I think the whole "organic farming can't feed the world" message is propaganda perpetuated by industrialized agribiz. Ditto for the messaging that farming is for stupid people and dopes. And, of course, everybody is assuming food production must be done on a massive global scale. <br /><br />The real problem is that they've got the paradigm wrong. Fukuoka is one of those pointing to an actual solution. Leighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02435811789823712254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-84593634802935173882022-12-16T14:01:25.974-08:002022-12-16T14:01:25.974-08:00Doing a quick search Glen, it appears to depend on...Doing a quick search Glen, it appears to depend on whom you ask. Some say yes, some say know. Those that say no are likely not calculating in the cost in the bad parts of industrial agriculture; those that say yes are likely assuming best case scenarios.<br /><br />I suspect the question Fukuoka would have for each of us is what are we, personally, doing.Toirdhealbheach Beucailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-2582412371317746242022-12-16T10:47:13.898-08:002022-12-16T10:47:13.898-08:00Well... if you want to kill 2/3 of the world popul...Well... if you want to kill 2/3 of the world population by starvation... you couldn't start at a better place than 'organic farming'...Glen Filthiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03256741311142364722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-91192005926372175802022-12-16T06:42:05.008-08:002022-12-16T06:42:05.008-08:00Nylon12, I heartily recommend The One Straw Revolu...Nylon12, I heartily recommend The One Straw Revolution if you have not read it. Yes, it is about farming - but it is about a lot more than farming as well.<br /><br />Of note, Fukuoka in the book also denotes that "do nothing" farming is actually a lot of hard, manually work - and to your point, not a lot of people want to do that. Like most things in life, the apples do not just slide down into your hand.<br /><br />The greatest issue we have is that modern mass farming requires a great many inputs - chemical fertilizer being a bit one. We have certainly seen the impact of that with the decrease due to the Russia-Ukraine War. The remarkable thing - to me, anyway - is that we could be working to apply such solutions now, before we absolutely need to. Instead, we blindly continue down the road of mass produced agriculture - the concept of "bug farming" represents just an extension of this thinking, not truly revolutionary thoughts.Toirdhealbheach Beucailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-67714981835774446892022-12-16T05:09:04.207-08:002022-12-16T05:09:04.207-08:00An interesting post TB. Too many people are wrappe...An interesting post TB. Too many people are wrapped up in material possessions let alone personal gain. Look at all the "influencers" on social media. Not many folks are interested in "do nothing farming" while modern mass farming allows the world's population to approach how many billion now?Nylon12noreply@blogger.com