tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post8385919778998927504..comments2024-03-29T07:36:56.875-07:00Comments on The Forty-Five: De Re RusticaToirdhealbheach Beucailhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-13742916124606352422022-02-19T07:39:51.083-08:002022-02-19T07:39:51.083-08:00Leigh, it is - both the actual translator and when...Leigh, it is - both the actual translator and when it was translated - perhaps not surprisingly, modern translators allow their 21st Century biases to come through in their commentary (new Penguin editions of the classics are especially bad in this matter, which is why I switched to Loeb). Many of the Loeb translations are from the 1920s to the 1950s.Toirdhealbheach Beucailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-65737363874476278102022-02-19T02:42:49.211-08:002022-02-19T02:42:49.211-08:00I'm guessing a good translator is important to...I'm guessing a good translator is important too.Leighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02435811789823712254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-20279893323885101252022-02-18T21:17:20.657-08:002022-02-18T21:17:20.657-08:00I sure hope so Linda. It could also be that they ...I sure hope so Linda. It could also be that they have been on my Christmas list for the last five years and in an act of love, she got them. <br /><br />Columella is a very good author. Many of the ancient authors are, which I think would surprise a good many people who consider those times primitive.Toirdhealbheach Beucailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-41350231290023421412022-02-18T21:16:16.565-08:002022-02-18T21:16:16.565-08:00STxAR, I forget which author, Verres or Cato - but...STxAR, I forget which author, Verres or Cato - but I think it was Cato, he had a very unfortunate views (to modern minds) on enslaved humans - that referred to slaves as "living tools". What a jarring thought, that a person would be reduced in practice to the same as a shovel or mattock, except they could talk.<br /><br />The fact that slavery still exists in the modern world - which it is documented as existing - should be the outcry of every church, if nothing else. Sadly, this will largely go un-noticed.<br /><br />They are interesting. As usual, Caveat emptor: all these authors assume a Mediterranean climate like Italy, where they farmed. Your mileage may vary.Toirdhealbheach Beucailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-16999864968120871592022-02-18T21:13:08.582-08:002022-02-18T21:13:08.582-08:00Nylon12, I am just a physical book guy. Part of i...Nylon12, I am just a physical book guy. Part of it is ownership of something that cannot be "deleted"; some of it is that I look at a computer screen 40-50 hours a week. The last thing I want to do is read something else on it.<br /><br />Indeed, let us hope any practices I learn are used because I want to, not because I have to.Toirdhealbheach Beucailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-23113546444832015672022-02-18T15:26:58.105-08:002022-02-18T15:26:58.105-08:00That is great, TB. Yet another hint that she is re...That is great, TB. Yet another hint that she is ready for the change to Old Home?<br />Glad you are enjoying them. <br /><br />You all be safe and a blessed weekend to you.LindaGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12203719919661519350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-64955663517212082892022-02-18T07:41:19.436-08:002022-02-18T07:41:19.436-08:00It is strange when we read of slaves and indenture...It is strange when we read of slaves and indentured servitude. That was so common that it wasn't even a second thought up until the mid 1800's here. One can still buy slaves in Africa, and other parts of the world. They were human implements back then, just as they are now. Much like our betters view the flood of folks from the southern border, "they do work other people don't want to". As I understand it, that mindset shows a caste system of thinking. Much like the PTB look upon the normies right now. So,very little to no change in 2000 years, eh?<br /><br />The concept of low input ag is intriguing. I may have to source those books.STxARhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04588850178293194825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-83815741293989975162022-02-18T07:32:50.823-08:002022-02-18T07:32:50.823-08:00Can't beat an actual book in the hand as oppos...Can't beat an actual book in the hand as opposed to even an e-reader which requires power to use it. Let's hope that an actual need for a reference like Columella doesn't happen.Nylon12https://www.blogger.com/profile/07524315093052589826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-19229694479260725572022-02-18T06:03:18.894-08:002022-02-18T06:03:18.894-08:00Leigh, I have to confess that not every ancient wo...Leigh, I have to confess that not every ancient work that has been preserved is a good read. I plodded through Quintillian's books on Oration; he was considered "the" source by the post Augustuan Empire, but he was very hard to read in parts. Columella is not so: not only was he apparently a good agriculturalist, but he is a good writer (the books by Varro and Cato are the same - and they are a single volume; you might start there if you have interest). I find him - and them - fascinating, especially some of the techniques they had to employ given a world with no modern conveniences.Toirdhealbheach Beucailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-87637446632512233922022-02-18T05:15:54.779-08:002022-02-18T05:15:54.779-08:00Okay, you hooked my interest with "low input ...Okay, you hooked my interest with "low input agriculture." Then you say, "It becomes an agricultural journey in the Ancient World." I find these kinds of books absolutely fascinating. Having accurate historical perspective somehow makes me feel grounded to the human race. And what better sources than writings from those who lived it. Leighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02435811789823712254noreply@blogger.com