tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post8270224910630527878..comments2024-03-28T18:44:08.125-07:00Comments on The Forty-Five: 2022 Mt. Whitney: Making A TeamToirdhealbheach Beucailhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-18132042574087689012022-08-26T04:58:51.542-07:002022-08-26T04:58:51.542-07:00Becki, that I know of the individuals are purely b...Becki, that I know of the individuals are purely based on when they signed up for this particular trip. To be fair, of our 11 hikers, at least half had been on a hike with this organization before, which I suspect in some ways helped to set expectations.<br /><br />Your thought about people being younger and their willingness to share is one I had not thought of. I do not have a good answer to the question. I suspect it would have been as it was - initial contact, then more details over time.<br /><br />Fortunately with this kind of hike, one can vary one's position in the hiking order such that if there was some disagreeableness, one could at least spend a fair amount of time away.Toirdhealbheach Beucailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-57932246367538608532022-08-26T04:55:14.192-07:002022-08-26T04:55:14.192-07:00It does John, although of interest is that remote ...It does John, although of interest is that remote success through hardship does not seem to have the same impact - as noted, I have coworkers that I have pushed through tasks over the last two years that I feel far less connected to than this group.<br /><br />And yes, too often anymore we do shy away from real challenges. I am not sure why - is it the concern we may actually fail, or that we believe that challenges now only fall into certain categories?Toirdhealbheach Beucailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-82079842780670162812022-08-26T04:52:56.826-07:002022-08-26T04:52:56.826-07:00Thank you Linda! It really was beautiful.Thank you Linda! It really was beautiful.Toirdhealbheach Beucailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-24292721513437870352022-08-26T04:52:40.090-07:002022-08-26T04:52:40.090-07:00In a way Ed, it is using the circumstances to forc...In a way Ed, it is using the circumstances to force the growth of community. It would not happen spontaneously (I think) if we had the ability to be distracted (it has not done so in my experience) nor if we were in civilization (again, not in my experience). Being away from both was a huge factor.Toirdhealbheach Beucailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-13995733591288823272022-08-26T04:49:47.633-07:002022-08-26T04:49:47.633-07:00STxAR, I do not think you are wrong. One thing ab...STxAR, I do not think you are wrong. One thing about the world that the InterWeb community has created is that it is often not very related to daily living and dealing with hardships. One can get support from an InterWeb group; what one cannot get is actual physical assistance (or not easily, anyway).<br /><br />That is interesting about the Panhandle - and sounds totally true. In a way with our packed in modern living, we forget what true isolation in such places may have been like.Toirdhealbheach Beucailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-86832892900755462772022-08-26T04:47:20.204-07:002022-08-26T04:47:20.204-07:00Leigh, I do not wonder if part of that was simply ...Leigh, I do not wonder if part of that was simply the fact that this was a paid hike, and so there was a cost threshold to participate. I also suspect the fact that this was a "guided" tour might have been less attractive to younger folks in the sense that that they "want to do it themselves" - certainly we saw plenty of groups of young people hiking together later.<br /><br />I like what you suggest about being outside of our normal peer group and working on a goal with no distractions. In a way, that is the only things something like this could have been done. The "lack of distractions" (a.k.a "No coverage') made a huge difference. We were forced upon each other as resource, for the hike and for general interaction and entertainment purposes.Toirdhealbheach Beucailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-81577832011460036522022-08-26T04:43:57.168-07:002022-08-26T04:43:57.168-07:00I have not been a great many trips where I have ha...I have not been a great many trips where I have had this opportunity, but it is pleasant when it happens. Oddly enough, our trip to Costa Rica was not quite the same: even though we were on a bus for long periods and did things together, there was never quite the same "sense" coming together as a group. It certainly does add to the experience.Toirdhealbheach Beucailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-44640864821108309452022-08-25T21:52:43.909-07:002022-08-25T21:52:43.909-07:00Team building comes from making it through hardshi...Team building comes from making it through hardship. When people manage to overcome adversity while working together, they come together. Sadly, people shy away from real challenges.John Wilderhttps://wilderwealthywise.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-20439020648020795312022-08-25T18:40:31.320-07:002022-08-25T18:40:31.320-07:00To maybe flesh out a bit Leigh's thoughts... ...To maybe flesh out a bit Leigh's thoughts... I wonder if any of the group had been younger (say, in their 20's) would it have felt as natural to begin asking about each other's lives. Do you know, are these types of things put together so as try to match people as agreeable companions? A week would be a miserably long time if there were any disagreeable types. I'd think, anyway. All that said, it's a lovely thing you describe.Beckihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16940604077427078249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-42595880642341887902022-08-25T15:46:15.145-07:002022-08-25T15:46:15.145-07:00Gorgeous scenery. Glad you had a great time, TB.
Y...Gorgeous scenery. Glad you had a great time, TB.<br />You all be safe and God bless.LindaGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12203719919661519350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-77294451938799450402022-08-25T11:27:35.386-07:002022-08-25T11:27:35.386-07:00I think you are right on all three counts. Being o...I think you are right on all three counts. Being outdoors, away from civilization and distractions, attempting to achieve some common goal is a great recipe for meeting others and getting to know them.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13214319366049620074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-39184753145244131922022-08-25T06:19:34.891-07:002022-08-25T06:19:34.891-07:00Shared hardship, working towards a common goal. T...Shared hardship, working towards a common goal. That is the story of our country in a small way. Then, with little hardship and everyone having their own goals, community shriveled. I expect to see community begin to come back, as the hardship increases.<br /><br />It's said that in the Texas panhandle, farmers would build their house in the middle of their property. Seems like a section was the normal size for a farm there. Then, several years later, they and their neighbors would move the house to a corner, to be near each other. There was one of those little spots about a mile south of my old home place.<br /><br />Wood badge training was much the same. A bunch of folks that were thrown together becoming a unit. That was the only way to make it.STxARhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04588850178293194825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-37983987767951972232022-08-25T03:00:31.313-07:002022-08-25T03:00:31.313-07:00It's interesting to me that most of your team ...It's interesting to me that most of your team was middle aged and older. I wonder if the experience would have been different, if say, they were all in their early 20s. <br /><br />Being separated from one's ordinary peer group and having a common goal without the distractions that life typically throw at us is a unique thing. With unique results. I love that you're putting this into words.Leighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02435811789823712254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14404262.post-56818133293245819362022-08-25T02:35:05.291-07:002022-08-25T02:35:05.291-07:00Its nice when a group of unrelated persons can com...Its nice when a group of unrelated persons can come together and become friends when traveling. My wife and I experienced the same on a bus tour in Mexico's interior. We were a group of 20 persons, and my wife and I were the only Americans. But after a day of travel and we became better aquainted, the others began to ask us questions about America and what we thought of Mexico so far. We later shared meals with different groups, toured the museums and churches and shopped different locations.<br /><br />It was very nice and we were sad when the tour ended. A great time was had and they were a large part of why that happened.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com